Poll: What super power rules?
Speed
X-ray/heat vision
Flight
Talking to fish
Strength
Elasticity
"Flame on"!
Invisibility
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11-08-2004, 02:02 PM
Post: #16
 
My slant on Marvel/Stan Lee is that they took the lazy man's approach to superhero-ism...
I mean I've heard Stan rattle on about "acceptance of the different", when he talks about mutants, and their lack of "Origins"...

The origin of a superhero, in my opinion is the foundation of a character...
I mean, how many people get struck by lightning through a window in front of a bookcase full of chemicals?

How many people witnessed the murder of their parents, and decided they were going to fight crime?
(Punisher blows)

Who's ever found Nth metal wings, or given a power ring from a dying alien?

These are large parts of what makes a superhero interesting, more so than thier powers...

It's like Ahab being born with only one leg, and hating whales for no good reason...

Marvel didn't want to try and compete with that, so they just said
"Ummmmm, uh...They were BORN that way"...
Blah... :?

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11-08-2004, 02:06 PM
Post: #17
 
From my perspective, pretty much every way I've seen that a superhero gained their powers has seemed a trite and superficial device to get the superhero those specific powers. Born with it seems more believable than anything else.
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11-08-2004, 02:08 PM
Post: #18
 
Who wants 'believable" in a fantasy???
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11-08-2004, 02:09 PM
Post: #19
 
Lucy Wrote:but how many of the pirates you consort with can talk to fish?

Ummm...
Define "fish"...--Bill Clinton
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11-08-2004, 02:14 PM
Post: #20
 
Poison Tongue Wrote:Who wants 'believable" in a fantasy???

Me! What I love about fantasy is the analyzing of an idea or group of ideas.

my enjoyment = (the more awesome the world) / (leaps of faith I have to take)
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11-08-2004, 02:35 PM
Post: #21
 
Looking at the poll results, Plastic Man, Elongated Man, and Mr. Fantastic are getting no love...

SPEEDSTERS UNITE!!!

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11-08-2004, 04:45 PM
Post: #22
 
I'm with Grant on this one. X-men was unique in thier take on superheros as a next stage of evolution embraced the modern world rather than the throwbacks of godly freaks and aliens saving our sorry asses. The X-Men just wanted to be normal, and accepted, but just couldn't. Remember the racial issues at the time? You can't turn a blind eye to the synergy of politics and art there. Superheros needed to become superhumans to continue to be more than what the comics code was denying them to be. When they focused on super human, they became the more realistic fantasy we have today.

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11-08-2004, 04:59 PM
Post: #23
 
Lucy Wrote:but how many of the pirates you consort with can talk to fish?

Some kind of crazy, mystical SUPER-PIRATE????

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11-08-2004, 05:15 PM
Post: #24
superheroes
spiderman is ok, but he's too goody goody two shoes, just like superman. Batman is more real, its less 'lets all have fun with superpowers and save people' and more of the things that happen in this world. sure, there may not be a guy in a batsuit gliding around gotham city, but i like to think theres a batman somewhere deep inside of all of us.

as for villains, its no contest that batman has the awesomest villains (poison ivy, the penguin, the riddler, the joker) but you must give credit to doctor octopus for thos robotic arms. (they're sexy)

i voted for flight, cause, well...who doesnt wanna fly? my secondary choice would have been invisibilty, or fire...*future serial arsonist*

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11-08-2004, 06:46 PM
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I like to think there is not a monomaniacal, brooding, issues with my mother kinda guy deep down inside.

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11-09-2004, 07:06 AM
Post: #26
 
Myrrth Sicopath Wrote:Some kind of crazy, mystical SUPER-PIRATE????

To be clear, Aquaman is NOT a Pirate, he's a King...
Namor looks like a slimmed down Frankenstein, and he can't talk to fish...

The best villans?
The Rogues Gallery!!!

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11-09-2004, 09:46 AM
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In defense of my previous statement, let me say this:

Batman - fundamentally human, uses neat gadgets and the power of his own mind to trick/trap/defeat the villans that he fights (with some actual fighting).

Spiderman - basically human (aside from the superpowers), uses some neat gadgets, like his web-slingers, to fight villans. He also uses quick wit to trap/trick/defeat villans, when his other superpowers don't quite work.

That's what I meant.

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11-09-2004, 10:17 AM
Post: #28
 
Carlotta Valdes Wrote:To be clear, Aquaman is NOT a Pirate, he's a King...

King of the Land of Stench! (Or maybe just a prince.)

Carlotta Valdes Wrote:The best villans?
The Rogues Gallery!!!

Have you read the Hush miniseries? Truly awesome. I can't get over what a badass the Joker is, ever, even while in bed with my sweetie. (cries)

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11-09-2004, 10:32 AM
Post: #29
 
Myrrth Sicopath Wrote:I can't get over what a badass the Joker is

My favorite joker appearance was in the graphic novel "Arkham Asylum"...

Although I loathe Marvel, I will give mad props to Ghost Rider...

Green Arrow also has no powers, but was more "politically aware" than The Batman, that's why I liked him better...

The Batman was a pretty grim vigilante in his early days...
He carried a .45 automatic, and was not hesitant about "busting caps"...
In one issue, he broke a man's neck with a kick...

The 1st comic-book "drug-addict" was Hourman, who needed to take the super-chemical "Miralco" to gain his powers...

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11-09-2004, 10:43 AM
Post: #30
 
Thaske Wrote:In defense of my previous statement, let me say this:

Batman - fundamentally human, uses neat gadgets and the power of his own mind to trick/trap/defeat the villans that he fights (with some actual fighting).

Spiderman - basically human (aside from the superpowers), uses some neat gadgets, like his web-slingers, to fight villans. He also uses quick wit to trap/trick/defeat villans, when his other superpowers don't quite work.

That's what I meant.

"Quick wit" and "power of his own mind" differ drastically. SpiderMan is like Superman: Clever. Batman is the worlds greatest detective. While Spider-Man also is very smart scientifically, he doesn't do the detective thing to the pinnacle of human ability like Batman. I know where you're coming from, and I see your point, I'm just not going to be convinced differently.

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